Although we've had zero success using uship to find legal transporters in the past, we recently posted a listing for a shipment from Bullhead, AZ to Bozeman, MT. http://www.uship.com/shipment/26%27-Pro-Line-Boat-on-new-Ez.../813923928/?i=1&p=50&s=236
Even though we've had no past success using uship, we decided to give it another try. The same shipment was listed simultaneously on other boards we use consistently successful results.
As per uship's instructions, we requested each bidder provide their US DOT number and MC number for verification in accordance with uship's recommendation. We used the bid details Q & A to make the requests of individual TSPS. A couple TSPs already had their numbers listed in the profile section and those were quite easily verified. Many of the others simply did not respond to our request and their offers were subsequently declined.
One particular TSP, BOATHAULINGINC. did reply and provided what appeared to be a legitimate US DOT number and an active MC#. However, the numbers crossed to another company in the FMCSA database. Being unsure of the procedure and not sure we weren't doing something wrong, we requested their assistance to determine if we were doing something incorrectly. We were assured (in the bid Q & A) by BOATHAULINGINC. that we were using the verification process correctly and they were affiliated with and had permission to operate under Apache Transport LLC's authority. With the innocent intent of confirming the facts, I contacted the owner of Apache Transport LLC advising them that BOATHAULINGINC had stated they were authorized to operate under Apache Transport LLC's authority.
I was told by the owner of Apache Transport LLC that there was no affiliation between the two companies and BOATHAULINGINC. definitely was not authorized to use his company's authority to transport interstate. He advised me that he would contact uship and the appropriate authorities to ensure corrective action was taken.
I ask for and did receive copies of emails sent to uship's Matt, Mickey, and Heather. These emails informed uship of the attempts of fraudulent use of Apache Transport LLC's numbers and demanded immediate contact information so Apache Transport LLC could pursue legal action and report the offender, BOATHAULINGINC. to the appropriate authorities.
I have no futher documentation of whether uship cooperated in any effort to report to the legal authorities or not. However in subsequent emails and phone conversations with the owner of Apache Transport LLC, I was told that uship had responded by saying they would only provide that information to law enforcement authorities making the request. To me that seems quite assinine since that makes uship an obstacle by not providing the information. How can a company report illegal use when uship denies their access to the alledged offender's identity and contact information? So rather than be constructive and assisting in the investigation of these reported offenses of illegal use of another company's authority, uship becomes an impediment.
Today I checked the profile of BOATHAULINGINC. and it is still displayed as an active TSP. I'm certainly no legal expert, but it would seem to me that at a minimum uship would suspend BOATHAULINGINC. and prohibit them from participation until an investigation was completed. The documentation is obviously there and uship is in receipt of the complaint from Apache Transport LLC and has access to verify the legitimacy of that company.
This will certainly be our last attempt to use uship services and uship may feel free to remove our account completely. We choose not to do business with a company so obviously void of ethics and apparently more inclined to be an obstruction to justice than one of honor. We also prefer not to be insulted by BOATHAULINGINC.'s false accusations of dishonesty on our part when it is obvious and documented that they are a fradulent company operating illegally. Uship still allowed this to happen and has taken no apparent action. It would appear that uship condones this kind of conduct since they have demonstrated no visible effort to intervene or investigate BOATHAULINGINC. nor assist an honest and honorable company's (Apache Transport LLC) effort to clear their name and publisize the fact that they have no affiliation with BOATHAULINGINC.
Below are the details of the bid Q & A including BOATHAULINGINC.'s final insult and denial. They were caught, it was documented in BOATHAULINGINC.'s own responses and the legitimate company's complaint, still uship takes no action to preclude it from being repeated by the same TSP.
Shipment Title: 26' Pro-Line Boat on new Ezze load trailer
Service Provider: boathaulinginc (0)
Timeframe: Service Provider is flexible on pickup dates.
Service Provider is flexible on delivery dates.
Can do within your timeframe, no problem!
Service Type: Other
Tow on your trailer behind our power unit!
Vehicle Type: Other
Additional Info: Above payment terms are acceptable. Thank you in advance for your consideration. Please review our profile, you will see that we have 17+ years in the industry. (New to uShip, not the industry!) Can provide references upon bid acceptance. I know we are not the lowest bid you have, however, we are well worth the cost difference.
Questions for this bid:Click below to report a uShip Rules violation
Date Asked Shipper Question Answer
9/7/2008 Jroy96 (0) Thank you again for your interest and offer of service. The lowest bid is not necessarily the determining factor in this selection. I do appreciate your experience in the industry and we will consider your offer and terms. We require valid motor carrier authority is for our insurance purposes. Please reply with your assigned motor carrier authority number (MC#) for further consideration for selection. Thank you for your interest in our bid. Our numbers are DOT#1256358/MC#492537. We look forward to hearing from you soon.
9/7/2008 Jroy96 (0) Thank you for the response and for providing your DOT & MC numbers. We'll be making the selection within the next couple of days. Based on your expereience stated, your offer will receive serious consideration. We appreciate your consideration and look forward to hearing from you and form a working relationship. Thank you
9/7/2008 Jroy96 (0) Perhaps I'm doing something wrong and you can help me get it right. When I use the uShip procedures to verify your DOT and MC numbers, it comes up as Apache Transport LLC, not Hauling Boats inc. Is that your company too or do you just have permission from Apache to use their numbers for interstate transport? Any help or information you can provide will be appreciated. You are not doing anything wrong. We are an associate of Apache Transport and run under their authority. Thank you very much.
9/8/2008 Jroy96 (0) Thank you again. I talked, by phone, with the owner of Apache Transport LLC last evening. He stated that he had no knowledge of your company and you were not authorized to submit or use the motor transport authority (DOT#1256358/MC#492537) you submitted representing them as yours. He emphatically stated there is no affiliation between Apache Transport LLC and any company DBA 'Boat Hauling inc. He also advised that he would be reporting the fraudulent use to state and federal authorities today. He further stated he would be contacting uShip to report the incident and he will be filing complaints of internet fraud to federal government's Internet Fraud Complaint Centers, i.e. IFCC, IC3 and FTC, in addition to seeking supoenas for your personal contact information from uShip.com to further both criminal investigation and civil actions. I will call Doc and get this straightened out. Thank you!
9/8/2008 Jroy96 (0) Thank you Sir, As I stated, I will call Doc and get this straightened out with him. I know him well and I know that he did not and would not say everything that you are claiming. I would also like to say that I am withdrawing my bid for your transport due to the fact that you have 1) violated uShip rules by contacting outside of uShip and 2) I refuse to deal with dishonest people that and if you are going to violate uShip rules and then lie about what was said then you are obviously a dishonest person. Have a good day!